Winter & Winter
I'm always looking for something new and going somewhere else
Stephan Winter, Founder

"The time now is absolutely excitingthe music is exploding and something new is happening and it's really beautiful," says label founder, namesake and executive producer Stefan Winter. From 1985 to 1995, he ran the influential JMT (Jazz and Music Today) label and documented the work of emerging talents, such as vocalist Cassandra Wilson, trumpeter Herb Robertson and saxophonists Steve Coleman, Greg Osby and Tim Berne, to refute the notion that nothing new was happening in jazz.
While still running JMT, Winter had conceived of a new label that went further. "It's not about categories of music," he says, but about looking simultaneously to the past and future. Part of the catalog explores classical works from the 16th through 20th centuries, while much of it is devoted to improvisation and the development of original music.

With more than 100 titles in its catalog (plus 54 JMT titles reissued to date), W&W features an unconventional combination that attracts loyal listeners. Though Winter would like to have more security, the label is financially self-sustaining, putting it in better shape than many independents. But Winter does not worry about how well a particular title sells. Instead, he pursues projects that excite him and that he feels connected to. The stylistically far-flung catalog mirrors his decidedly broad tastes.
"I live absolutely in the present," Winter says. "I'm always looking for something new and going somewhere else." This opinion holds for not only the music, but also the art and packaging. W&W CDs are perhaps more recognizable than any other, with their distinct hard cardboard Smartpacs, which evoke the image of hardcover books. Winter experimented with the packaging for a couple of years, motivated by his dislike for plastic jewel cases that scratched, cracked, and fell apart with age. "It's disrespectful to the music to do it that way," Winter says, just like you wouldn't put a fine wine in a cheap plastic cup.
The generally austere elegance of the covers also gives the label a unified look that suggests substance over flash. Inside, the cases have pages of photographs, drawings, or paintings from noted artists, such as Stephen Byram, Yoshitomo Nara and Günter Mattei. The images can complement or clash with it, according to Winter. It may be chosen by him, the musician, or executive producer Mariko Takahashi, but the imagery should have meaning, he says.

"What is really special about Stefan is that he tries to find a way to make things happen, which is very inspiring," Caine says. Their relationship has allowed him to explore his varied ideas and cultivate different audiences from the jazz and classical worlds. With the live CD finished, he is working on tracks with his Bedrock electric trio and an opera based on Othello. Caine is impressed with Winter's ability to heed the details and still maintain the long view.
With a full-time staff of three, including himself, Winter is immersed in each project. The label releases twelve CDs each year, to ensure that the releases receive the attention they deserve. "The current project is always the most important one," he says, admitting that some nights he keeps himself up thinking about work. There should be plenty to keep him awake, with releases from keyboardist Lorenzo Ghielmi, Akchoté, Kagel and guitarist Fred Frith with the Arditti String Quartet due before year's end.

Habyor , the third CD from Black's band AlasNoAxis, was recently released. Black has known Winter since recording with Berne's Bloodcount on JMT. When approached by other labels to record as a leader, Black hesitated, but when Winter asked, he knew it would be the right situation. "There's nothing more straightforward than being asked to produce the music you want," Black says. "It's like a family, and we have built trust and communication over time, which is important for me."
Building a history with an artist is significant to Winter too, who puts so much of his sensibility into the label. Based in Munich, Germany, W&W has an international reach (Allegro handles North American distribution), but retains a European point of view. Because of that perspective, Winter is still surprised by the positive response that some projects receive in the United States. "The audience is way more open-minded than it looks like from the outside," he says. "And I'm totally happy about that."
Visit Winter & Winter on the web at www.winterandwinter.com .
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