Joanne Brackeen: Phenomenal Capacity

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One of the most heralded pianists of her era, JoAnne Brackeen came to New York in 1965 after cutting her chops jamming with the likes of Teddy Edwards
Teddy Edwards
Teddy Edwards
1924 - 2003
sax, tenor
, Harold Land
Harold Land
Harold Land
1928 - 2001
sax, tenor
, Charles Lloyd
Charles Lloyd
Charles Lloyd
b.1938
saxophone
and Dexter Gordon
Dexter Gordon
Dexter Gordon
1923 - 1990
sax, tenor
during the waning days of the Central Avenue scene in her native California. After a few dues-paying years here, she landed the piano chair with Art Blakey
Art Blakey
Art Blakey
1919 - 1990
drums
's Jazz Messengers, touring with the great drummer from 1969-72, following up the experience with tenures in the bands of Joe Henderson
Joe Henderson
Joe Henderson
1937 - 2001
sax, tenor
and Stan Getz
Stan Getz
Stan Getz
1927 - 1991
sax, tenor
. Lauded by Bill Evans
Bill Evans
Bill Evans
1929 - 1980
piano
as "a pianist-composer of phenomenal capacity," Brackeen came into her own as a leader with albums featuring her own compositions and sidemen including Michael Brecker
Michael Brecker
Michael Brecker
1949 - 2007
sax, tenor
, Cecil McBee
Cecil McBee
Cecil McBee
b.1935
bass, acoustic
, Billy Hart
Billy Hart
Billy Hart
b.1940
drums
, Eddie Gomez
Eddie Gomez
Eddie Gomez
b.1944
bass
and Jack DeJohnette
Jack DeJohnette
Jack DeJohnette
b.1942
drums
.



All About Jazz: Let's start with what you're doing. You have a couple of gigs coming up now. You'll be doing a duo at the Knickerbocker just before this interview comes out [January, 2010].

JoAnne Brackeen: That's right, with Cecil McBee.

AAJ: So that will hail back to the kind of gigs you used to do at Bradley's, where you often worked, as did most of the other great New York pianists?

JB: Yes, we'll do a lot more standards there, but that's a lot of fun. I enjoy that, too. As long as it's not, you know, too much.

AAJ: And you'll be at The Kitano this month.

JB: That will be with a trio—Ugonna Okegwo

[on bass] and Adam Cruz
Adam Cruz
Adam Cruz
b.1970
drums
[on drums]. We'll do a mix—more of my tunes than you would hear at Knickerbocker.

AAJ: You're a highly regarded composer. Are you writing all the time?

JB: Always, always. I've got seven new tunes [from 2009]. Starting out with "Year of the Ox." And we did "Malibu," "Crystal Palace," "Upper Pearls" and "Crock's Stilettos." We did those at Jazz Standard [last summer] and then there are two more that we didn't get to.

AAJ: But you haven't recorded an album of new compositions in a while then.

JB: No, and we have a lot of ideas, you know. I'm a professor up at Berklee and some of the people working there, I don't know if you're totally aware, but one of them is Greg Osby

Greg Osby
Greg Osby
b.1960
saxophone
, and we do fantastic duets. So there's a lot going on up there, too.

AAJ: How long have you been doing that?

JB: I've been doing that for quite a while. Not full time, but say full time for about eight years. It's great for me because I never did that in my career before at all. And I didn't even think that I would ever want to. But they asked me up to do a concert and they put a clinic right—I can't remember if it was right before or right after the concert—and the questions that I got asked at that clinic were amazing and so I was kind of intrigued and then Cecil McBee is a professor at the New England Conservatory up there and also Fred Hersch

Fred Hersch
Fred Hersch
b.1955
piano
had been at NEC. They talked me into doing it. So then Berklee offered me one of those—I forget what you call it when you go in and teach for four months...

AAJ: A residency?

JB: A residency, right, but you have to teach for three days a week. I just told them "Look, if you can give me one day I'll do it and you can get somebody else for the other two." And they did and I got a taste for it and it was just great. So I went ahead and little by little began to work with the college full time.

AAJ: It's a whole different world these days from the way you came up.

JB: Yeah, it is, but you know what, I get to teach all that I learned on my own. And that is not the kind of teachers that they have had in many of the institutions of learning.

AAJ: What are some of the lessons you try to impart to your students?

JB: Just what you hear when you hear me play. In any way that I can. You know, every student is different, learns differently, has different models and so on and so forth and I just get right in there and help them in a way that I imagine would have been a lot of fun for me if I had been born a few years later (laughs) and was learning from a teacher like that.

AAJ: Who were some of the pianists you heard early on who inspired you?

JB: Well, probably there was Bud Powell and then came along—there were a lot of people, but if I just mention the main ones you'll know what I like. McCoy Tyner came after that and then I moved to New York and I met Chick Corea

Chick Corea
Chick Corea
b.1941
piano
and I met Keith Jarrett
Keith Jarrett
Keith Jarrett
b.1945
piano
. I did concerts with Stan Getz, so I ran into these people all over and they're amazing people. And Herbie Hancock
Herbie Hancock
Herbie Hancock
b.1940
piano
.

AAJ: What about on the West Coast when you first started playing?

JB: There weren't that many... you know, I was more impressed, most impressed, with Ornette Coleman

Ornette Coleman
Ornette Coleman
b.1930
sax, alto
's group there. I used to go and visit at the house and watch the rehearsals. There is one pianist that I remember. I started working—it was on Central Avenue and there was a pianist there named Terry Trotter. I haven't seen him in years. Sometimes I turn on that program on TV [Everybody Loves Raymond] and you can just hear him and I see his name up there [as composer of the theme song], so I know he's still playing piano. But the people that I knew there that you know and that are still performing are like Charles Lloyd, Bobby Hutcherson
Bobby Hutcherson
Bobby Hutcherson
b.1941
vibraphone
—let me think if anybody else is still around—Teddy Edwards
Teddy Edwards
Teddy Edwards
1924 - 2003
sax, tenor
was one and Harold Land
Harold Land
Harold Land
1928 - 2001
sax, tenor
of course [both since passed away]. And Dexter Gordon.

AAJ: You were pretty much out there on your own as a female instrumentalist in those days.



JB: Yeah, there was nobody else playing. I don't know why. I had one friend, named Jane Getz, who played piano, but she kind of went into other areas.


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