You are wrong Billy Cobham


Sign in to view read count
The first time I heard Tony Williams was on Miles Davis' 'Seven Steps to Heaven.' Has Billy Cobham ever heard the album? Williams' playing totally undermines assertions that he did not listen to his bandmates
Billy Cobham was featured in the the November 2008 issue of JazzTimes sounding off about fellow drummer Tony Williams. I respect Cobham's contribution to modern music, but he made comments about Williams that will no doubt spark debate.

Here's the context. In the magazine's Before & After column, Cobham was asked for his opinion of "Abracadabra" by Cindy Blackman, from that drummer's album Music for the New Millennium (Synth Sound, 2008).

Having criticised Blackman for overplaying, Cobham went on to say: "She should know better than that...Tony Williams' days are long gone. That was his Achilles heel. He did not play listening to people; he played louder and louder. He had a record called Ego (Polygram, 1970), and that was his big problem, not listening...When he was with Miles (Davis) it was about, hey, we've got a 17-year-old brat here playing drums and he's got this new idea! At every other station was an extremely disciplined musician. And along comes this brash young person that could be marketed and they put him in the limelight—when, in fact, he had great ideas but he hadn't been able to really mold them yet."

The first time I heard Williams was on the title track of trumpeter Miles Davis' Seven Steps to Heaven (Columbia, 1963). Williams was 17 at this time. Williams' playing on this one track alone totally undermines the assertions that he did not listen to his bandmates and that his own ideas were raw and unformed.

Quite the contrary. Any objective listener would surely agree that Williams' timekeeping behind Davis is amazing, far advanced upon that found on most other jazz recordings of the period. Davis takes four choruses. Listen to what Williams does just before going into the bridge of the first chorus. He perfectly matches Davis' quarter-note, quarter-note, eighth-note, eighth-note, tied eighth-note phrasing in classic call and response fashion. Then there's the drummer's set up into the top of the fourth chorus. His snare chatter fits evenly between Davis' notes before climaxing with a big, emphatic downbeat. Williams simply could not have played with such synergy had he not been 100% tuned into what Davis was playing.

Another great example of Williams' active-listening, and ability to channel what he is hearing, is his interplay with pianist Herbie Hancock on the same track. Their hook-up at the end of saxophonist George Coleman's first chorus is extraordinary—so subtle, so completely appropriate. By the end of Coleman's third chorus, drummer and pianist sound more like one person operating two instruments simultaneously. Again, Williams simply could not have done it had he not been listening with both ears.

In Michelle Mercer's biography, Footprints: The Life and Work of Wayne Shorter (Penguin, 2004), bassist Ron Carter describes Williams' playing with the Davis quintet best when he says, "Tony could sound like Max Roach or Art Blakey or Philly Joe Jones in any given second. Freedom was when any one of the five people in the group could immediately identify that and jump to that page in their book. That's freedom for me, to have that kind of musical awareness, where the ego is not part of the music."

It is that kind of musical awareness that made Tony Williams so successful, such a revelation at such a remarkably young age.




All About Jazz needs your support

All About Jazz & Jazz Near You were built to promote jazz music: both recorded and live events. We rely primarily on venues, festivals and musicians to promote their events through our platform. With club closures, shelter in place and an uncertain future, we've pivoted our platform to collect, promote and broadcast livestream concerts to support our jazz musician friends. This is a significant but neccesary effort that will help musicians now, and in the future. You can help offset the cost of this essential undertaking by making a donation today. In return, we'll deliver an ad-free experience (which includes hiding the bottom right video ad). Thank you.

Get more of a good thing

Our weekly newsletter highlights our top stories and includes your local jazz events calendar.