I remember, quite well, the first time I met Sonny Rollins. It was in the fall of 1978, when I was writing for Down Beat
. For a cover story, I traveled to his upstate New York home for an interview with the Saxophone Colossus.
Over the years, I'd heard his music, both on recordings, and some remarkable performances. I'd also read all about this fellow and the more dramatic episodes of his life. Although he had a reputation as being a "heavy cat, I wasn't intimidated at the prospect of meeting him.
But after his wife Lucille picked me up at the train station and opened the door of their simple but cozy home, I looked up the stairs and saw a man who appeared to be about eight feet tall.
We exchanged greetings, and I immediately set up my recorder to begin. He was quiet initially, friendly with little small talk. I had my questions, and he had his answers, but they didn't come easily. After I asked the first question, he paused. After the second question, a longer pause. After the third, even longer.
I couldn't read his mind, but I could feel him working it out, like he does his improvisations. Here was a thoughtful, deep thinking individual obviously quite intelligent and self-aware.
At the same time, there was his presence, his powerful life force, the same one that you feel when hearing him in person. The same one that you can feel when plays. There's a lot of energy coming through that horn, enough to warm a frigid apartment on a cold winter's day.
Some say that one's life force is a manifestation of a greater source, and in Sonny's case, I'd say he is connected to the universe in a way that few people ever experience. It is written that this connection to things more profound is natural for some people, and for others, it comes through meditation or prayer. It's almost like he's hooked up to a higher power, a deeper vibration.
I suspect Sonny was born this way, but he's also a man seeking a deeper meaning to life, and so he's done a considerable amount of work on himself over the years. His music is a meditation, and he's also practiced yoga for decades and spent time in an Indian Ashram.
So those long pauses were actually a blessing, because they gave me a chance just to "be with Sonny. It's one thing to sit and talk, and it's another to sit in his living room, while he's thinking. Those were some powerful first impressions of this man.
The interview, which I have in a back issue somewhere, concluded, and then I joined Sonny and Lucille in their kitchen for some lunch. Immediately, I felt completely at home, like I'd known them all my life. This man whose artistry has been celebrated globally for over half a century, had Buddha like humility, yet the fire was present, and he was obviously dedicated to his music. After lunch, he took me outside to his studio, the place he practiced, Sonny's woodshed. He spent a lot of time in that room.
A few hours later I was back in Manhattan. And so began a unique friendship that endures. Over the years, Sonny has become a spiritual mentor to me. There have been many discussions about the big questions, the ones we can never answer. We are both quite opinionated, and concerned, about the issues of our era. And we also share an apprecation of the lighter side. A conversation with Sonny can easily go from Noam Chomsky to Myron Cohen.
To me, Sonny is like the Dalai Lama, or Gandhi. He possesses an angelic quality that's rare in an era where ego and greed reign supreme. I'm not what you'd call religious but I'm a Jew in heritage, so when I think of Sonny Rollins as my Rabbi, it is because he is the spiritual leader of our Jazz community, an esteemed scholar and teacher qualified to expound on matters of a spiritual nature, both in his words, and actions.
In this case, it's about Sonny's music, and what that does for this planet and its inhabitants, and it's about Sonny, the man, and how he lives his life. Those are the lessons he offers.
Most of my heroes are long gone, and there are but a few mentors still extant in this new millenium. So I am blessed to have this remarkable individual in my life, a source of guidance, inspiration and truth.
I did an audio interview with Sonny a couple of weeks ago, on the eve of his 75th birthday, where he spoke, at length, about his philosophy of life, his feelings about Jazz and the media, 911, and future of humankind. That interview, in its entirety, will appear on his website, starting next month.
I edited excerpts from the interview, together with some clips from his new CD, Without A Song; the 9/11 Concert
, to create the first All About Jazz Podcast
When I got the call to do Sonny's website, I realized it was a project of unique importance. Knowing this man, and having received so much from him over the years, put this on a different plane than any other project in my creative portfolio.
I am not alone.