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| Which musicians from outside the U.S. have introduced the most significant changes in jazz?
| Date: | 15-May-1998 05:29:23 |
| From: | pritika chatterjee (PRITIKA_CHATTERJEE@yahoo.com) |
| | Although I have not heard to many jazz musicians outside the US I feel Barbara Dennerlein and her band consisting of Ray Anderson,etc. are awesome musicians and have contributed significantly through albums such as Take off and That's Me. |
| Date: | 18-May-1998 18:06:59 |
| From: | Patrick (pjknight@polsci.umass.edu) |
| | Well if you mean contemporary jazz, there is a slew of artists from around the world that are very popular. Japanese jazz artists like Keiko Matsui and Junko Onishi just to name two. Though I don't know if they really contribute or influence U.S. jazz artists. I think Antonio Carlos Jobim has influenced American jazz artists the most. He practically invented the bossa nova and introduced the world of jazz to a Brazilian sound that is still popular today. He has worked with such greats as Stan Getz, Ella Fitzgerald and even Frank Sinatra. Jobim's spicy and yet smooth style of jazz was very influential I think. Patrick |
| Date: | 22-May-1998 08:04:42 |
| From: | jim smith (smithj@pbs.port.ac.uk) |
| | Lets not overlook J.S.Bach.And would we remember Birdland if it was'nt for George Shearing and Joe Zawinul. |
| Date: | 30-May-1998 04:53:21 |
| From: | Paul Abella (Pabella3@aol.com) |
| | well, I can think of a few foreigners that have influenced jazz. Some of these will be agreed with. Some of these will get me bomb threats... 1) Antonio Carlos Jobim: name one jazz musician playing standards that has played a gig in the last 20 years and NOT played a Jobim tune at some point. I could list tunes of his that have become standards but my hands would just end up getting tired. So instead I'll just say that if you want to know who has changed jazz (as well as influenced it) the most, post-bebop wise, anyways, it's Tom Jobim, hands down. 2) George Shearing: George, along with Oscar Peterson (another non-American, by the way) helped to really expand the way we look at jazz. The shearing sound is a unique one, and we are all indebted to him as Jazz musicians. 3) The Beatles: sure, snicker all you want. I can think of no less than 10 jazz Beatles tributes, not to mention how quickly Michelle became a standard, and I expect soon, Norwegian Wood and Eleanor Rigby will follow suit. No one has escaped the Beatles music, and due to that, no one has escaped the influence of Beatles music. |
| Date: | 06-Aug-1998 09:56:00 |
| From: | David Whiteis (whiteis@ipfw.edu) |
| | Speakin' of bomb threats, I'm already ducking... but lest we forget: jazz originated as a meld of African rhythms & European melodic/harmonic structures (over-simplistic, I know -- but you get my point). Last time I looked, both Africa AND Europe were foreign to these American shores. As for the Beatles -- I've often wondered what Coltrane might have done w/ "Norwegian Wood," had he had the opportunity. |
| Date: | 08-Dec-1998 05:04:11 |
| From: | Mr Pescado (sakana9@hotmail.com) |
| | If you're including the whole area of jazz, then I think Toshiko Akiyoshi should definately be included. Some people don't get much out of her own playing, but her composing and arranging style is one of the freshest, most individualistic out there, and I pretty sure thats had a lot of influence on the new generation of composers/arrangers. I would also include trumpeter Terumasa Hino. He's been around for a while, but I just heard him for the first time, and was really impressed. Wynton Marsalis has some good things to say about him in i think it was the last issue of DownBeat. |
| Date: | 08-Dec-1998 05:04:50 |
| From: | Mr Pescado (sakana9@hotmail.com) |
| | If you're including the whole area of jazz, then I think Toshiko Akiyoshi should definately be included. Some people don't get much out of her own playing, but her composing and arranging style is one of the freshest, most individualistic out there, and I pretty sure thats had a lot of influence on the new generation of composers/arrangers. I would also include trumpeter Terumasa Hino. He's been around for a while, but I just heard him for the first time, and was really impressed. Wynton Marsalis has some good things to say about him in i think it was the last issue of DownBeat. |
| Date: | 22-Dec-1998 04:42:29 |
| From: | Earlis Marks (egmarks@webtv.net) |
| | The first guy who I was really aware of..sort of hit me like Tony Williams..he was young...and really kicking it...Neils Henning Orsted Pederson playing with Dexter Gordon...He was killer...and Django...oh..Grapelli...What was their impact on American Jazz..? I guess I really don't know..I do think they carried the music to the world..that they were instrumental in the promotion of jazz as art throughout the world..I don't think you have to be a innovator to have tremendous impact..I hear people question Miles techinical skills or Monks etc...It is their impact on the music that is so tremendous...The mention of the Beatles is a very good point...Their impact via their songs.. |
| Date: | 03-May-1999 15:06:14 |
| From: | Jack Davies (balimoon@worldnet.att.net) |
| | Brazilian music has had a profound impact on jazz and American popular music, from the influence of bossa nova, Brazilian percussion, Brazilian rhythms, the melodies and harmonies of Jobim, Ivan Lins, Milton Nascimento and other composers. There's a great discussion of it in the book "The Brazilian Sound" (Temple University Press, 1998). |
| Date: | 16-Oct-1999 11:33:51 |
| From: | Hal Walan |
| | Debussy, Stravinsky, Bartok, Schoenberg, Webern, Rachmaninoff, Ravel, Liszt, Brahms, Schubert, Ravel, etc. etc. etc. |
| Date: | 18-Oct-1999 18:37:27 |
| From: | Hal (again) |
| | Don't forget Bach . . . |
| Date: | 22-Dec-1999 13:51:18 |
| From: | Frederic Chavez (frederic_chavez@hotmail.com) |
| | Unfortunately there are many unknown jazz musicians around the world. I mean... not advertised and marketed... One of them is the Romanian Harry Tavitian a great pianist and composer who plays a jazz with folkloric influences, mostly balkanic... |
| Date: | 14-May-2000 22:55:04 |
| From: | Soozie |
| | Is New Orleans really part of the United States? Was it back then? I mean really? |
| Date: | 25-Jun-2000 06:35:18 |
| From: | Ashwin (prorish@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in) |
| | Hindustani classical music and musicians have influenced the music considerably starting with Ravi Shankar in the 60's and going on to Alla Rakha,his son Zakir Hussain(who was with John Mclaughlin's Shakti)the double violin player, Shankar and his brother Dr.L.Subramaniam who finished a medical degree and then went on todo his doctorate in western musicology while remaining a Carnatic(separate from Hindustani) violinist and composer of some unique music! In recent years it has been percussionist Trilok Gurtu. All of them have featured in the Downbeat polls. Several American jazz musicians have studied Indian music to widen their musical horizons-off late Tim Amarcost(tenor sax),Steve Gorn(flute) and many others. Jazz does not belong to the US anymore.It moved out to Europe in the 60's with Eric Dolphy and Dexter Gordon and now is a world art form created everywhere-Japan,Australia--you name it.How many Americans really enjoy jazz anyway??. Last year I drove across 6 US States thru 5000 miles and all I could get on the radio was some crap(sorry for the language but there is no better word) they call smooth jazz. |
| Date: | 29-Jul-2000 10:06:56 |
| From: | VRANK (Vrankmaster@hotmail.com) |
| | And what about Gabor Szabo? Or Armando Peraza, the Cuban Percussion Master. He together with Cal Tjader invented in the early 60's a new kind of style. Or is that not jazz enough for some of you? |
| Date: | 22-Oct-2000 18:53:20 |
| From: | adrian jackson (jacksonjazz@ozemail.com.au) |
| | Look, this is just off the top of my head, but have you heard of : Django Reinhardt, Stephane Grappelli, Oscar Peterson, Kenny Wheeler, Han Bennink, Peter Brotzmann, John McLaughlin, Dave Holland, John Surman, Kenny Wheeler, Giorgio Gaslini, Enrico Rava, Stan Tracey, Michel Petrucciani, Mike Nock, Jan Garbarek, Bernie McGann, Dollar Brand, Gato Barbieri, Paul Grabowsky, Niels-henning Orsted Pedersen, Palle Mikkelborg, Martial Solal, Paul Bley, Toshiko Akiyoshi, Terumasa Hino, Albert Mangelsdorff, Graeme Bell, I could go on & on. All are great players, one way or another. Quite a few have exeretd a strong influence on musicians in the USA. Others would, if they had been more widely heard. It's a big world out there ! |
| Date: | 22-Feb-2001 17:58:04 |
| From: | Derek W. Brown (DWBrownThree@aol.com) |
| | Interesting thread, non? First and foremost, I'd have to say Django Reinhardt. I'm a guitarist, so there's a little bit of bias - but Le Grande Gitane cannot be denied. Although his influence is felt most strongly in Europe, he was the first musician from outside the U.S. to have an impact on American players. And lets not forget his associate Stephane Grappelly. Among contemporary musicians, I'd say the violinist Didier Lockwood; the saxophonist Jan Gabarek; British guitarist John McLaughlin; Joe Zawinul . . . |
| Date: | 03-Jun-2001 22:57:11 |
| From: | Eva |
| | Soozie-you are a fool |
| Date: | 03-Jun-2001 23:01:27 |
| From: | Mermeg |
| | Eva is the real fool-interpret that wierdo's HAHAHA |
| Date: | 03-Jun-2001 23:02:18 |
| From: | God |
| | I'm talking to you...YEAH YOU! |
| Date: | 08-Jul-2001 15:22:12 |
| From: | Soozie |
| | I am not a fool - I am the goddess of New Orleans. I am here to inform you that we have long ago culturally seceded from the United States. That is why we are vital. That is why we are alive. Listen up. |
| Date: | 29-Jul-2001 12:25:33 |
| From: | Alan |
| | King Oliver, Louis Armstrong, Jelly Roll Morton, and the Preservation Hall Band. |
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