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| Which person living or dead has made the most significant contribution to jazz in the last ten years?
| Date: | 08-Feb-1999 14:37:07 |
| From: | RENAC (renac@ec-lille.fr) |
| | MILES DAVIS !!!! Le mec est génial, il a un sens du riff et de la note juste hors du commun, il a des musiciens fabuleux et il transcende dans tous les styles en apportant toujours du neuf. S'il n'en restait qu'un, je choisirais lui ! |
| Date: | 08-Feb-1999 15:52:51 |
| From: | Prof X (dontsendmail@me.please) |
| | Herbie Hancock, justs keeps bustin' out cool albums. From Future Shock to Gershwins World he puts out cutting edge albums with a twist. |
| Date: | 09-Feb-1999 16:47:24 |
| From: | Chris Genzel (stamil@t-online.de) |
| | Thanks, Prof X, I was just about to mention Herbie, even though he's quite an obvious choice. But he's constantly looking forward in order to find new ways for jazz; an attitude which is especially rare in these retro-oriented times.Herbie Hancock & Bennie Maupin discographies at: http://home.t-online.de/home/stamil/ |
| Date: | 10-Feb-1999 10:12:23 |
| From: | jim smith (JimSmith@port.ac.uk) |
| | I would like to suggest that the people who are the driving force behind the MOSAIC lable have earned a vote of gratitude from all us fans out here. |
| Date: | 14-Feb-1999 16:56:02 |
| From: | Chris Genzel (stamil@t-online.de) |
| | The abovementioned praise for the MOSAIC reissues has left me thinking. Surely it's great that there are lots of reissues these days (I'd give many kudos to Michael Cuscuna for tons of wonderful rereleases) of albums which were out of print. But, thinking about it, should we really mention this as the biggest contribution to today's jazz? It'd certainly fit to these conservative times that someone who makes old recordings available again should be credited for doing the most significant contribution in the last ten years - this would mean that nothing which happened musically in the last ten years is worthwhile.Herbie Hancock & Bennie Maupin discographies at: http://home.t-online.de/home/stamil/ |
| Date: | 16-Feb-1999 23:16:43 |
| From: | Medeski Fan |
| | Medeski Martin and Wood have contributed greatly to Jazz as a genre. They have brought a lot of young listerns in that normally may not have ventured into Jazz. They are the new coltrane, davis, ellington, of Jazz. Their tunes will become the standard of the new mellinium. Peace, PS they have some tracks up in the Liquid Audio section of AAJ. Go check them OUT.
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| Date: | 17-Feb-1999 00:36:12 |
| From: | John MacLeod |
| | Miles -- and, sadly enough, he made his contribution by dying. Since then there's been the inevitable retrospective hoopla, reissues and remasters galore... but every one has been an Event, and more importantly a SUCCESSFUL event. More people are buying more high-quality, high-prestige jazz packages than ever. Look at The Complete Gil Evans Sessions, The Complete Bitches Brew, etc. And the loss of Miles has, I think, hit home that we have almost completely lost the boppers, the last true wave of jazz giants [Sonny Rollins remains, thank God]. Miles' death seems to have infused society at large with the sense that the jazzmen will not always be with us, that this music mustn't be taken for granted. Jazz seems to have a higher public profile now, more awareness, more respect, it's beginning to attain its rightful place in the hearts of society at large. After decades of being "fringe music", jazz is becoming "normal" and "respectable"... largely because of the intense scrutiny and re-evaluation of jazz that has taken place on the loss of Miles. |
| Date: | 17-Feb-1999 11:24:27 |
| From: | jim smith |
| | Having just read Chris Genzel's comments I have to agree with what he says.I shall now rethink my response to the original question and try very hard to come up with a more positive opinion.Oh yes nearly forgot to mention...I dont have any of the Mosaic issues but I live in hope. |
| Date: | 17-Feb-1999 20:03:59 |
| From: | Alonzo Weston |
| | Miles forever of course but there are some promising new lions out there like Medeski, Martin and Wood and beleive it or not Massive Attack. Massive Attack have simply changed the way jazz and all music is put together today. |
| Date: | 18-Feb-1999 07:06:01 |
| From: | Chris Genzel (stamil@t-online.de) |
| | Here's another one: Bill Laswell. Well, Laswell's not really a jazz performer, but he's nevertheless made a great contribution to it. Just think of Last Exit. In the last ten years, he's produced wonderful records by Henry Threadgill, Pharoah Sanders, Sonny Sharrock; incorporated real jazz elements into his other projects by working closely with Graham Haynes & Byard Lancaster, and of course he's done the Miles Davis remixes - something no one dared to do before, and I think they improved on the originals.Herbie Hancock & Bennie Maupin discographies at: http://home.t-online.de/home/stamil/ |
| Date: | 20-Feb-1999 06:13:43 |
| From: | David Arsenault (Bobbiguy@aol.com) |
| | BRIAN EVANS is awesome. Saw him at The Desert Inn in Vegas and found his site I thought jazz enthusiasts might like to know: www.thecrooner.com Check it out all!
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| Date: | 20-Feb-1999 10:26:49 |
| From: | Terry Gregory (terrygregory.ccg@btinternet.com) |
| | My nominations for the most influential jazzmen: Duke Ellington - the complete musician, composer, arranger and leader of the greatest collective talent ever put together in a band Ornette Coleman - radically reshaped jazz in the 60s and 70s before exploring the links between jazz and rock music with his Prime Time band. I was lucky to be present at the first UK concert of the band when a large part of the audience walked out - their loss sadly Mike Gibbs - probably a name unknown to most fans but a man who carried Ellingtons mantle forward. Gibbs is a brilliant composer/arranger and always surrounds himself with leading musicians. Very little of his remains in the catalogue but if you can find anything buy it and treasure it - the man is a genius |
| Date: | 25-Feb-1999 09:52:34 |
| From: | benny carter |
| | Hey guys I'm still here |
| Date: | 25-Feb-1999 12:06:54 |
| From: | FRED SMITH |
| | Hello I'm in a band right now called "brown sugar" we kick ass! we are in need of a good barbone player? any ?'S call me |
| Date: | 06-Mar-1999 15:31:08 |
| From: | mario do amaral junior (oy1jy@hotmail.com) |
| | Duke Elington , for me was the tre grat name off jaz,as musician and composer,he never be forgoten,such ELLA fitzgerald,Louis Armstrong,Cont basie and the grat swing of benny goodman, they are goig to live forever.... |
| Date: | 07-Mar-1999 19:15:06 |
| From: | Paul Abella (Pabella3@aol.com) |
| | Truthfully (and somewhat negatingan entire thread of my own posts) I would have to say Miles Davis. Most of the groups coming out today have been heavily influenced by the either the 50's or 60's quintets, and bands like MMW have pushed the revolutions of Bitches Brew and In a Silent Way to their very limits. As much as I rag on Mr. Davis' contributions to jazz, we'd all be playing very differently if not for him... |
| Date: | 09-Mar-1999 03:32:55 |
| From: | Dave O'Neill |
| | is the above post actually from THE Bennett Lester (Benny) Carter???????? |
| Date: | 09-Mar-1999 04:43:30 |
| From: | pp Benny CarterIn answer to the question |
| | In answer to the question re Benny Carter. No I put forward Mr Carter as I think he would be to modest to even think of what a major influence he has been and probably always will be.Truly a living legend. |
| Date: | 12-Mar-1999 08:43:55 |
| From: | Chris Genzel (stamil@t-online.de) |
| | Sorry guys, I don't want to argue about Duke's and Miles' and all the other persons' contributions, but we're talking about the *last ten years* ...
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| Date: | 18-Mar-1999 13:09:42 |
| From: | Mike Zickar (mikeyz1@altavista.net) |
| | I predict that Ellery Eskelin will have the most impact of all jazzmen in the NEXT 10 years. For the past 10 years, I'm not sure who I'd vote for: I'd be torn between Joe Lovano, Myra Melford, Steve Lacy, and Dave Douglas, with none of them really standing heads above the others. I wish Don Pullen was still alive. . . I would criticize the choice of Herbie Hancock. I think he's been doing some competent stuff in the 90s but in terms of innovation or influence, I don't think his 90s stuff will stand the test of time, unlike his 60s BN and 70s Headhunters stuff. |
| Date: | 25-Mar-1999 09:20:56 |
| From: | Antonino D'Angelo |
| | John Scofield and Keith Jarrett, the legacy of Miles. |
| Date: | 26-Mar-1999 22:34:26 |
| From: | Brent Westwood |
| | I've got to tell ya....that's a tough one!!! From a pure inovative standpoint I'd have to say "MILES". From the standpoint of all around musican, composer, jazz populist, and marketeer I'd have to say Dave Grusin. Don't get me wrong....the "Duke", Dizzy, Lionel, the "Dorsey's", Glenn Miller, et al, all have a high place in this complex equasion of "IMPACT". Even though they are gone from the scene their contribution will certainly stay in tact, forever. Grusin, through his own genius, has managed to keep Jazz in front of the general public even though most folks out there have never heard of him. |
| Date: | 15-Apr-1999 02:30:42 |
| From: | Patrick Tiglao (bentiglao@prodigy.com) |
| | MILES DAVIS!!!!!!!!! Still Miles remains last figure to change the face of jazz |
| Date: | 26-Apr-1999 16:59:14 |
| From: | Dig n MMW |
| | MMW! MMW!! MMW!!! MMW!!!!
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| Date: | 30-Apr-1999 02:37:22 |
| From: | C. Glatzel (carlg@bantudesign.com) |
| | The legacies of Miles Davis, Bill Evans and Wayne Shorter have distinctly rung out in various performers over the past ten years. These immortals are almost impossible to be overlooked as influencers of music and thought. |
| Date: | 08-May-1999 16:07:28 |
| From: | Zippy |
| | Marty Ehrlich for his own albums and for his work with the Julius Hemphill sextet. Ehrlich is a virtuoso on tenor, alto, and soprano sax, on clarinet and bass clarinet, and on flute. He composes & arranges. And was the band leader for the last Hemphill sextet CD "At Dr. King's Table." You have to go back to Eric Dolphy to find as versatile a player capable of playing at Ehrlich's level. Also, Lee Konitz. He continues to release extraordinary CD's into his seventh decade. Check out "Thingin" (with Don Friedman & Attila Zoller) or "Alone Together" (with Brad Medhldau & Charlie Haden). Nobody plays more intelligently and creatively than Konitz. It seems to me that it's time for an Konitz/Ehrlich CD: The King and his Heir Apparent. |
| Date: | 08-May-1999 16:11:20 |
| From: | BoBo |
| | Hey, there's either a lot of semi-literates on this thread or they have a short term memory problem. The topic is: THE LAST TEN YEARS - LIKE THE 1990'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smarten up you dimwits. |
| Date: | 16-May-1999 20:40:38 |
| From: | don wilcox |
| | I think the previous contributor should reread the question. My nominations are: Charlie Haden Geri Allen Paul Motian Paul Bley J.J. Johnson Joe Henderson Lee Konitz Marty Ehrlich Julius Hemphill David Murray Conrad Herwig Toshiko Akiyoshi Tommy Flanagan Kenny Barron Dave Holland Kenny Wheeler |
| Date: | 07-Jul-1999 11:18:13 |
| From: | Sven Claeys (sven.claeys) |
| | John Zorn! Just because... |
| Date: | 18-Oct-1999 11:41:30 |
| From: | Jaime Sol |
| | I agree with the person who said that Dave Douglas is one of the most important contributors of the last 10 years. I feel Douglas has been important by promoting flexability in a way which differs from the John Zorn school of cut-and-paste post modernism. It would be hard for anyone to argue against the validity of Mr. Zorn's music, and I certainly think he should be recognized as the catalyst for change in the the 80's and 90's. The reason I believe he is important was that he created his own experimental music by juxtaposing many different styles in discontinuous sound-blocks. To me, his music has much substance, although I understand how most listeners might find it difficult to listen to. On the other hand, Dave Douglas has been capable of executing the cut-and-paste style of John Zorn, while proving that he can also function in any other genre he chooses. Douglas's exlecticity moves him to dedicate entire projects to a particulat ideom. For example, the "Tiny Bell Trio" focuses on Balkan folk music played by the uncommon instrumentation of trumpet guitar, and drums. He also leads a string quintet, a straight jazz sextet, and a John Zorn-style electric octet. His projects varry drastically from one another, but for the most part, the songs unfold in recognizable song-form, allowing both novice listeners, and avid jazz fans to appreciate and enjoy his music. Other musicians who I believe have recently made an impact on jazz during the last ten years include: Anthony Braxton (Pulse tracks, collage form structures) John Zorn (cut-and-paste, and game pieces) James Carter (integrating various influences into mainstream jazz) David Murray (incorporating extreme altisimo passages into mainstream solos) |
| Date: | 02-Nov-1999 01:03:07 |
| From: | Gareth |
| | Joe Lovano for the past ten years. Chick Corea with Orgin is starting to make a huge contribution |
| Date: | 13-Nov-1999 13:25:02 |
| From: | Simone (simone@francais.com) |
| | Tommy Flanagan has released a series of CDs with the best jazz piano trio since the days of Bill Evans. The bass player is Peter Washington, the drummer Lewis Nash. Three outstanding CDs are: LADY BE GOOD: FOR ELLA SEA CHANGES SUNSET AND THE MOCKINGBIRD (LIVE) Mr. Flanagan simply goes his quiet way, as he has always done, consistently recording some of the best jazz of the latter half of the century. |
| Date: | 14-Nov-1999 12:24:12 |
| From: | calvin cool (cool@aol.com) |
| | I do agree with the above comment about Flanagan. BUT - Hey, all you Tommy Flanagan fans - his first great trio album has just been reissued from 1957 with Elvin Jones and Wilbur Little. The title is OVERSEAS, a 1999 remastering - great sound, fantastic trio - a very serious rival to his current one. Absolutely classic jazz. What would have happened if this 1957 trio had stayed together? |
| Date: | 15-Dec-1999 08:32:30 |
| From: | Ellen |
| | Flanagan is consistently fantastic in his low key way. He's one of the wonders of modern jazz. |
| Date: | 12-Jan-2000 00:06:45 |
| From: | Don Voltmer (Donvolt@rof.net) |
| | To this point it looks as if Miles is the favorite. I don't have a problem there, but I am a bit surprised that Dave Brubeck was not suggested by anyone, at least I don't remember seeing him mentioned. He's had a very long career from the 50s to today (1/11/2000). He showed us many new time signatures, composed a lot of great jazz songs, held together a great quartet, and cut many very swinging recordings - all with a smile on his face! Listen to his solo on "How High The Moon" (1953-Fanasty album "Jazz At Oberlin") for example. |
| Date: | 29-Feb-2000 21:06:35 |
| From: | t bone |
| | JJ johnson. Guy is deff underrated |
| Date: | 21-Mar-2000 23:02:08 |
| From: | Hal |
| | I agree about J.J. Johnson - not just a great player but also a great arranger & composer. Check out his "The Brass Orchestra" on Verve - wonderful big band writing & performance. |
| Date: | 18-May-2000 18:27:33 |
| From: | Soozie |
| | During the 1990's: Lee Konitz Steve Lacy Julius Hemphill David Murray Cecil Taylor Max Roach Marty Ehrlich Paul Bley Gary Peacock J.J. Johnson Mal Waldron |
| Date: | 13-Jul-2000 21:34:19 |
| From: | Ed |
| | Dave Holland has became a truly great player in the 1990s. |
| Date: | 01-Nov-2000 19:17:08 |
| From: | SC |
| | I think that the contribution to jazz made by John Zorn in the las ten years are very important. Proyects like Naked City or Masada open different paths for jazz to develop. |
| Date: | 12-Feb-2001 15:37:55 |
| From: | Erik |
| | I agree with Jamie Sol. Dave Douglas has done incredibly important things during the 90's. I also would like to mention musicians like Jim Black, Chris Speed, Uri Caine and Ellery Eskelin as people who have played their part in expanding the jazz language (and more), in spite of not having major record company backup and distribution. For a young, aspiring [jazz] musician like me, they have served as role models and beacons during my (ongoing) formative years. That might say at least something about their stature as contributors to jazz in the 90's.Also, the notion of a single individual leading the whole jazz community seems a little far stretched in these postmodern times. I don't think there will ever be another Coltrane. We're heading into full-on plurality... |
| Date: | 16-Jul-2001 21:47:31 |
| From: | EuropeanJazzFan |
| | Man, most of you guys are living in the past. This kind of Jazz fan then goes on to ask if Jazz is dead. It would be if not for Europe and some open minded fans and musicians here in the United States. Just like rock was taken from America and redefined in Europe by the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, the new wave of Jazz is now being brewed in the old continent. While you old farts concentrate on dusting off those old Miles Davis records I will be playing great new music by MMW, Charlie Hunter, Sex Mob, Groove Collective, Karl Denson, Solsonics, Marcus Miller, Snowboy, John Scofield, Liquid Soul, etc, etc. Now don’t get me wrong, I like Miles Davis. In his time he made significant contributions to Jazz. It is now time to move forward. We must search for and embrace the next Miles if he ever comes along. For now Jazz will do just fine in the hands of the artists I mentioned. If the U.S. will not look ahead, I am quite sure that Europe, Japan and other countries will take over. C'est la vie, mes amis.
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| Date: | 17-Aug-2001 16:19:14 |
| From: | Kiki |
| | Miles Davis is mentioned in very few of the comments on this thread, seems to me a lot of living, vital musicians were listed and commneted on. |
| Date: | 17-Aug-2001 16:43:09 |
| From: | Erik Lund (jazz_jrummer@hotmail.com) |
| | Hamid Drake In a few years- he'll be recognized as the monster drummer he is - and everyone will act like they knew all along...
EuropeanJazzFan - it's interesting that you mention the European influences, then list people like Scofield (whose last album was a total flop IMO), Hunter, MMW, etc.
No Brotz? No Barry Guy? Mark Sanders? Paul Lovens? AMM? Paul Dunmall? Mats Gustafson? I don't hear any European influence in "Works For Me"... |
| Date: | 05-Oct-2001 17:35:23 |
| From: | ryan scorer (scorer2002@hotmail.com) |
| | FRANCE 3 BRAZIL 0 It was the year 1998 an exciting time for me, France and Brazil were playing in the World Cup Final. I settled down to watch the match with my family. My mother had bought us some pop and crisps. I relaxed in the chair ready for the start of play. The commentators were throwing theories around as to how the match that everyone wanted from the start came to be the biggest moment in world sport but I was just wishing that it was England that was playing but it wasn’t it was France against the champions Brazil – a battle of skill against passion and sport. I couldn’t decide how these two sides had come this far, after all, Brazil had no defence and France had no attack, so how could it be that they were to be considered the best in the world, but that’s football for you!Its now kick-off the game has begun, tension is running high in our house, my brother and I want France to win. The game was unpredictable, sometimes glorious and rewarding, sometimes tragic and unfair. That is the beauty of the game. The fact that France managed to keep out the best and sneak a goal or two itself, and that Brazil scared the opposition witless with its flair is reason enough for this day. Ronaldo was playing in the game, but it was a game that he was clearly not fit to play in, or so I thought. For a while it seemed that Frances shocking display in front of goal was going to cost them the game, I couldn’t believe it, it looked like Brazil was going to win the world cup again, but the frail Brazilian resistance had to crack, and it did after 27 minutes, Zinedine Zindane gave France the headlines they had been looking for and scored a goal from his head, my brother and I jumped up in our chairs and cheered. We got through the next 18 minutes of the game hoping that Brazil would not score. Half time had arrived, “quick mum fetch some more pop” I said. I went to the phone to ring my day to see if he was watching the game, he was, and he was as excited as I was. Back to the second half I settled down again with my pop and crisps and got ready for the rest of the action. Leonardo was substituted early in the second half, at last, as he was playing rubbish. Without Ronaldo, Brazil's attacks were few and far between. In another display of misdirected skill Roberto Carlos decided saving a corner with a bicycle kick would balance his ineffective runs down the flanks. Needless to say, he was wrong. The story was all but told a minute into injury time, when Zidane wrote his name in World Cup history with a second headed goal from the opposite corner. Long before the final whistle, Brazil knew it was beaten, and the roars of the patriotic crowd must have been almost unbearable. It is justice, beauty, romance that man of the match, Manu Petit, should seal the victory for France with a deft goal past Tafarel in the last minute of play, sending his nation into a frenzy. Brazil, beaten, can consider itself lucky not to have suffered any more that it did, as a team in form would surely have cremated the scoreline. Instead, France is the world champion, at least until 2002, when the show heads east to Japan and Korea. I hope this time it is England playing in the World Cup Final.
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| Date: | 11-Oct-2001 06:08:34 |
| From: | Jon |
| | Where's the melody? Where's the beat? |
| Date: | 20-Oct-2001 13:41:05 |
| From: | juan francisco |
| | I think one of the best heads of jazz in this century is Charles Mingus.I know there´re another ones just like Miles, Coltrane, Pastorius,... but i don´t know how to explain it,Mingus makes my heart beats. |
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