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Take Five With Dezron Douglas

By Published: December 31, 2012
Meet Dezron Douglas: On Dezron Douglas: Live at Smalls, the bass prodigy is presented with a band of his peers: the highly original Stacy Dillard
Stacy Dillard
Stacy Dillard

saxophone
, the fiery Josh Evans
Josh Evans
Josh Evans

trumpet
, pianist David Bryant
David Bryant
David Bryant

piano
and the veteran drummer Willie Jones III
Willie Jones III
Willie Jones III
b.1968
drums
.

Hailing from Hartford, CT, Douglas is a product of the Jackie McLean institute. Quickly establishing himself as a dominant voice on the jazz scene of New York City, Dezron began to work with such giants as Louis Hayes
Louis Hayes
Louis Hayes
b.1937
drums
, Pharoah Sanders
Pharoah Sanders
Pharoah Sanders
b.1940
saxophone
, Lewis Nash
Lewis Nash
Lewis Nash
b.1958
drums
and Kevin Mahogany
Kevin Mahogany
Kevin Mahogany
b.1958
vocalist
.

Instrument(s):

Bass.

Teachers and/or influences?

My biggest musical influence is my Father Minister Alton Douglas. He was the first person to put an instrument in my hands. I was also highly influenced by my Great Uncle Walter Bolden. He was a prolific drummer and composer from Hartford, CT that became one of the core members of second generation of bebop in the late '50s. Jackie McLean
Jackie McLean
Jackie McLean
1932 - 2006
sax, alto
entered my life at the perfect time. I was 18 and I really didn't know what I wanted to do after high school. Jackie encouraged me to leave my fulltime job and enroll in his program at The Hartt School and, from that moment on, he was always in my ear. I studied bass privately with Dave Santoro during my middle school and high school years and I began and still continue to be a student of Nat Reeves since my freshman year in college.

I knew I wanted to be a musician when...

The first time I saw my dad's band play. The Faith Harmonizers of Hartford, CT were a popular gospel quartet on the east coast in the '80s and '90s. My pop was a singer in the band. He had a great rapport with the bassist. I loved the way the bass captured the feel of the church. I remember being in church with my mother, Alicia Strong, when I was five or six and listening and locking into what the bassist was doing during "Praise and Worship" service. That was the first moment I fell in love with music.

Music is a spiritual connection between the instrumentalist and the Creator. All those pretty notes and great sounds don't just happen overnight or with lots of practice. Faith is my rock in this music. I practice so that I can let go and let the music (The Creator) take over me and allow me to communicate with whomever I am onstage with in a highly intense conversation.

Your dream band:

If I could be a sideman in Jackie McLean's quartet in the '60s that would be my dream gig. To play with JMac, Billy Higgins
Billy Higgins
Billy Higgins
1936 - 2001
drums
or Art Taylor
Art Taylor
Art Taylor
1929 - 1995
drums
, and either Mal Waldron
Mal Waldron
Mal Waldron
1926 - 2002
piano
, Gil Coggins
Gil Coggins
b.1928
or Walter Davis
Walter Davis
Walter Davis
b.1912
....man, that's music happening. If I could lead a dream band it would be a septet ( I love horns ) with JMac, Dexter Gordon
Dexter Gordon
Dexter Gordon
1923 - 1990
sax, tenor
, Booker Little
Booker Little
Booker Little
1938 - 1961
trumpet
, Curtis Fuller
Curtis Fuller
Curtis Fuller
b.1934
trombone
, McCoy Tyner
McCoy Tyner
McCoy Tyner
b.1938
piano
and Arthur Taylor. That's the band that I am feeling at this exact moment. Ask me tomorrow and it might be different cats. I'm still very much in a love affair with hard bop and free-thinking music from the '60s. That was a time when music was really moving forward on so many levels.

Road story: Your best or worst experience:

I was on the road in Russia with Cyrus Chestnut
Cyrus Chestnut
Cyrus Chestnut
b.1963
piano
and Neal Smith. We were in Moscow at the time and I had to exchange some money. It was in the dead of January in what seemed to me to be a Frozen Tundra. I'm from Hartford, CT and I had never felt cold like that until that point. I walked to the exchange place, which looked like a fortress. Inside was one giant staircase with a Guard sitting behind it. He directed me up the staircase, which to my surprise was covered in ice. Inside? Yes!

I made it up the stairs and changed my money, but completely forgot about the wet staircase. Let's just say I tumbled and slipped all the way down what had to be at least 22 stairs (concrete and ice). I had a serious cut on my leg and my ankle was jacked up. The eerie part of it all was the Guard who was behind the staircase watched me fall all the way down on his monitor, he then chuckled when I landed, and as I walked by him on my way out he said absolutely nothing. Later that day we checked out of the hotel and Nutman treated us all to a box of chicken from KFC, which was actually MFC (Moscow Fried Chicken) for our three-hour drive to Tver. Let's just say them couple pieces of chicken I ate came at the right time.

Favorite venue:

I just recently played The Bimhuis in Amsterdam. Wow is all I can say. There is really nothing fancy about the place, but it is by far one of the best experiences onstage and even better response from the audience. My favorite spot in NY is a tie between Smalls in the West Village and Dizzy's in Columbus Circle. Both stages are Premiere yet they are sooooo different.

Your favorite recording in your discography and why?

I actually have three current favorites. At some point all the records I own were my favorites. Right now I am digging on Jackie McLean MAC Attack Live, with Hotep Galeta, Nat Reeves, and Carl Allen
Carl Allen
Carl Allen
b.1961
drums
. Second is Pharoah Sanders, Journey to The One, with John Hicks
John Hicks
John Hicks
1941 - 2006
piano
, Ray Drummond
Ray Drummond
Ray Drummond
b.1946
bass
, Idris Muhammad
Idris Muhammad
Idris Muhammad
b.1939
drums
and Eddie Henderson
Eddie Henderson
Eddie Henderson
b.1940
trumpet
. Third is George Coleman, Amsterdam After Dark, with Cedar Walton
Cedar Walton
Cedar Walton
1934 - 2013
piano
, Sam Jones
Sam Jones
Sam Jones
1924 - 1981
bass, acoustic
, and Billy Higgins. I am a fan of any recording that has Ray Brown
Ray Brown
Ray Brown
1926 - 2002
bass, acoustic
, Sam Jones, Ron Carter
Ron Carter
Ron Carter
b.1937
bass
, Charles Mingus
Charles Mingus
Charles Mingus
1922 - 1979
bass, acoustic
or Doug Watkins
Doug Watkins
Doug Watkins
1934 - 1962
bass
on bass.

The first Jazz album I bought was:

The first album that was given to me was Arthur Taylor Mr AT and Taylor's Wailers Wailing at The Vanguard, then my High School band director Scott Porter gave me Christian McBride
Christian McBride
Christian McBride
b.1972
bass
's Gettin to It as a graduation gift. The first record I purchased myself was a compilation disc of Mingus called The Essential Mingus; from that album alone I went on to purchase Mingus Ah Um, Mingus in Wonderland, Changes .One and Two, and Blues and Roots/

What do you think is the most important thing you are contributing musically?

Life. I feel like it's my duty to make everyone around me feel like they can play whatever they want to play and its accepted. That's life. Within the contexts of musical format, styles, and idea, sometimes as musicians we get caught up in individuality to the point that we feel we are creating something new. New is a word that means "you." In that case nothing is new; it's all been done before. You can't reinvent the wheel, but what you can do is go on a journey to the unknown with likeminded individuals. That's what I try to do every time I'm on the bandstand.

Did you know...

I am a diehard sports fan. I am an NFL fanatic and a superior NY Giants fan, and I have been since I was four years old. I am a huge Knicks fan as well. The Yankees are the newest additions to my sports family, since I began watching them play in 1990 when they stunk. I'm enamored with everything about sports. The concept of team and having one goal to which everyone benefits from. I played at Dizzy's with Willie Jones
Willie Jones
Willie Jones
b.1929
during the NFC championship game between NYG and San Fran last year, and during my opening solo to "NOMMO," we were doing a Max Roach tribute, I played the theme song to Monday Night Football, and what happens? Jeremy Pelt
Jeremy Pelt
Jeremy Pelt
b.1976
trumpet
comes up to me and says "Giants got the ball back and they are about to kick a FG to win the game." The joy that appeared on my face and throughout my body was magical. I pulled my strings so hard and kicked the song off with a bang.

CDs you are listening to now:

Currently I'm digging on Tony Allen, Fela Kuti's drummer. I recently saw him perform in Amsterdam with his band Black Series ft Amp Fiddler. I am late the Afro Beat game, but I'm totally addicted.

How would you describe the state of jazz today?

'Well.....I feel like it's even more alive than the "Haters" suggest it to be. There has not been a good representation of this music from my generation. There is a pile of great players and serious composers, but no one has yet made me feel like saying "I need to follow this cat." Maybe I am stuck in a more traditional manner, but it has nothing to do with progress. I feel like musicians today are so far behind the musicians of yesterday in the sense of respect for one's self and this music. It all comes down to parenting. I gravitate to the masters—my elders. They have more to teach us than anybody right now. I think my generation has lost a lot of respect for Elders. This may be due to technology or history, but ultimately parenting.

What are some of the essential requirements to keep jazz alive and growing?

The media needs to get involved much more than they are now. All About Jazz is at the forefront of Jazz Media. We need much more. People watch TV and are on the internet more than they were 10 years ago. I want to see jazz TV shows back on cable. Live music being played for theme songs and what not. Bring back the studio orchestras. It will change things once again.

What is in the near future?

Well I hope to record some more of my music and continue to work with Ravi Coltrane
Ravi Coltrane
Ravi Coltrane
b.1965
sax, tenor
, Cyrus Chestnut, Louis Hayes, Abraham Burton and any musician who feels I can bring something positive to their music.

What song would you like played at your funeral?

I don't like to think about death, but if I had to pick one it would be "That's My Son (Hangin on the Cross)," a traditional gospel song I sing when I am with my father and my brothers.

Photo Credit

C. Andrew Hovan


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