Claire Martin: Improvisation, Inspiration, Imagination
“ I'm always striving to be a more interesting musician; to sing in tune with feeling and honesty. ”
Katrina-Kasey Wheeler caught up with the songstress to discuss her newest project, He Never Mentioned Love (Linn Records, 2007), and her road to success.
All About Jazz: Your influences growing up were Judy Garland and Ella Fitzgerald. You have said that hearing Ella's songbooks changed your life. How so? Did you want to be the next Ella Fitzgerald or did you just know that singing was going to be the way your spent your life? Was this a calling early on?
Claire Martin: I think hearing Ella sing the Great American Songbooks is essential listening for anyone who wants to get into jazz singing. She was a very prolific artist and my Mother was and still is one of her biggest fans, so I often heard Ella being played in our house. I didn't ever want to be the next Ellain fact at that stage of my life I had no idea that I would even end up singing professionally. I think I got a taste for great songs sung by one of the greatest ever artists. Ella swings hard.
AAJ: Was Ella Fitzgerald the artist who inspired you the most? Were there any others?
CM: Sarah Vaughan was a major influence as was Chris Conner, and later Betty Carter, Shirley Horn and Anita O'Day. Out of all of these singers Shirley Horn was my biggest influence.
AAJ: Are you from a musical family?
CM: My parents aren't musicians but they are big music lovers and still go to at least one gig a week. They have been very supportive of my work and I have to say they do have really good taste in music. However, I did see a Rod Stewart CD at their house the other day!
AAJ: Were you interested in other genres of music or was jazz always the genre that spoke to you and inspired your imagination?
CM: I like all sorts of music. My CD collection is very mixed. I love Radiohead, [David] Bowie, Kate Bush, K.D Lang, and Joni Mitchell; I could go on for ages. I love great songs whatever the genre, but I love the freedom jazz gives musicians to improvise. Improvisation is the major key to inspiring my imagination. Betty Carter would sing differently every night. That's very appealing to me.
AAJ: All great singers/musicians have had to pay their dues, so to speakwhat is the best thing that you learned about this industry as a singer when you sang at the theatre bar for two years?
CM: I learned that you have to know your keys, your arrangements, what suits your voice, how to play to a room, how to engage an audience in between songs, how to lead a band, count in a tune. In essence, I learned the beginnings of a craft that I am still working on. I don't ever think that you get to the stage where you are totally satisfied with your performance. Maybe you do when you're seventy?
AAJ: Do you think that going through uncertainties early on in one's career, in terms of paying dues, is necessary in order to understand who one is as an artist? As well as knowing what one wants to achieve as an artist; to know if you really have the drive and the vision to make it a career?
CM: Hard gigs definitely can make or break an artist early on, but if you are passionate about pursuing music as a career then you have to do the gigs early on that are just hard work. You don't "go in at the top of any career, so yes, I guess you do get a good level of your determination and also whether you are good enough to carry on.
AAJ: How did you go about forming your first quartet and how did that lead to being signed to Linn Records?
CM: When I left the cruise ships, I had to get a band together in order to do gigs in London, where I am from and where I was living. I went to a few gigs and heard a lot of musicians that were fantastic; Jim Mullen for instance is a world class guitarist and I was really thrilled that he would even consider working with me then as I was very young and not that experienced.
I just rang them up and got together a set and started hustling. There were more gigs in town then, or at least it seemed like that. Maybe there were just less singers. Linn Records came to see me at the Pizza on the Park in London, a famous venue which unfortunately is about to close. They gave me a record deal when I was twenty-three and I recorded the first CD for them the following year. They have been totally supportive of me over the last twelve years.
AAJ: What was it like to achieve one of your goals: that of opening for Tony Bennett at the Glasgow International Jazz Festival?
CM: Three weeks ago he just came to my opening night at the Algonquin in New York. I was really happy to see him again. He was with his new wife. What an absolute star he is. He said some great things to me that were so supportive and kind; very morale boosting. He is a major talent. Still singing great at eighty years old.
AAJ: You have received numerous awards and have worked with legendary musicians and by doing so have obtained much critical acclaim. Is all of this a validation of your career? Does it incite an inner drive pushing you forward on your path of success?
CM: It's very nice to receive awards. It's great for PR and it makes you realize that your work is getting "out there, and people are enjoying it. I don't think it can actually incite an inner drive, but it certainly can help to encourage you along the way. Drive is something I think you are either born with or not. I don't think you can learn to be driven.
AAJ: Has your artistic vision changed at all since you first started your career?
CM: Not really. I'm always striving to be a more interesting musician; to sing in tune with feeling and honesty. Of course I'd like to sing at more festivals in places like St. Lucia, but that's really a glamorous vision of setting rather than artistic vision.
AAJ: Why, at this point, did you choose to record this tribute to your mentor, Shirley Horn?
CM: Well, she had passed away in 2005 and it was time for my next CD and so it seemed perfectly fitting to do it as my next project. I'm surprised that there haven't been more tribute albums to her.
AAJ: How did Horn's technique, spirit and approach influence you?
CM: Shirley Horn can sing a lyric and absolutely reduce me to tears. She touched me immensely. Her piano playing was so classy, stylish, sophisticated, and hip. Her phrasing was just perfect. Her attention to the lyric was just so well measured and her delivery sublime. For me she was the complete jazz artist.
AAJ: Many critics are saying that this current album is your best work yet. Do you feel this way, too?
CM: It's true that I am getting some very nice praise in the press. I think most artists always like the last piece of work that they have done as it seems the freshest. I'm very proud of the work and loved working with my band on the arrangements.
AAJ: What was it like to work with [bassist] Laurence Cottle?
CM: Laurence Cottle is one of the most exciting musicians I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. He is totally supportive, full of great and original ideas and most of all is an incredible bassist. I hope we can do more CDs together in the future. He is a much loved and respected musician in the UK and around the world.
AAJ: You are thought to be, by many including your peers, the best British jazz singer that has emerged in the past decade. It must be a joy to hear something like this?
CM: It's very flattering. There is room for everybody however!
AAJ: You truly pour your heart and soul into your work. Do you feel that you are a storyteller in this way; to convey the emotional undertones of your songs?
CM: I'm getting better at story telling with age. I have more life experience to pour into a song. Listen to Abbey Lincoln now, how much life and love and living she has in her sound. Perhaps you just get more believable with age.
AAJ: Life experience is so crucial for a vocalist's interpretation to be believable. You are great friends with [pianist/composer] Sir Richard Rodney Bennett. What is it like to work with him on When Lights are Low (Linn Records, 2005), especially considering the camaraderie that exists?
CM: It was great! He really brings out the best in me. He plays with such emotion and is very encouraging with difficult key changes or arrangements. I am very proud to know him, even more so to work with him.
AAJ: Is there any producer or musician that you would like to work with and have not yet had the opportunity to do so?
CM: I'd like to sing with [guitarist] Pat Metheny and [drummer] Brian Blade. Also, I would love to sing with [vocalist] Kurt Elling.
AAJ: Those would all be amazing collaborations. Is the jazz scene in the U.K. all that different from that of the United States, and if so, how is it distinctive?
CM: Europe is producing some fantastic young players and some real stars of the future are emerging from the schools and colleges in the UK. Gwilym Simcock who is a pianist and composer here in the UK is a case in point.
AAJ: You are a Yoga enthusiast, does that practice help you to focus on your music and to channel your artistic creativity?
CM: Well, I use it for everything, but mainly to calm me down and keep me centered. It helps me with my work undoubtedly, but that's not the main reason I practice yoga. I don't think I would have achieved as much as I have without my practice.
AAJ: Every album that you record has its own feel, but what remains the same on each album, is the fact that there is always that element of class and verve present. That is something that must be very rewarding, to be signed to a record label where you have the artistic freedom to create the type of music that you want to record and do it in the manner that you would like.
CM: That is indeed one of the most important things about not being signed to a "major label. Yes it's rewarding to always be supported artistically even when I've had some very mad ideas!
AAJ: Are you currently touring?
CM: I'm a mum of a five year-old daughter, so I don't like to tour extensively. I've just completed a twelve-date engagement in New York at the Algonquin Hotel. It's the longest we have been apart. I don't like to leave for more than a week on tour. It's hard to be a working mum in any walk of life, but even more so when your work involves you being away from home and working very unsociable hours. I often wonder how actresses do it when they have to be away for months on end on a shoot.
AAJ: What do you hope that listeners take away from this album, He Never Mentioned Love, after listening to it? What would you like them to feel or think?
CM: I'd like them to feel like they have just heard some heartfelt singing with some world class musicians doing there very best to bring some new life into some wonderful material. I'd like them to rush out and buy some Shirley Horn recordings and keep her memory alive. I would like to say to the fansthank you for listening to my music.
Claire Martin, He Never Mentioned Love (Linn Records, 2007)
Claire Martin with Richard Rodney Bennett, When Lights Are Low (Linn Records, 2005)
Claire Martin, Secret Love (Linn Records, 2004)
Claire Martin, Too Darn Hot (Linn Records, 2002)
Claire Martin, Every Now And Then: The Very Best of Claire Martin (Linn Records, 2001)
Claire Martin, Perfect Alibi (Linn Records, 2000)
Claire Martin, Take My Heart (Linn Records, 1999)
Claire Martin, Make This City Ours (Linn Records, 1997)
Claire Martin, Old Boyfriends (Lexington/Linn Records, 1994)
Claire Martin, Devil May Care (Lexington/Linn Records, 1993)
Claire Martin, The Waiting Game (Linn Records, 1992)