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Great, but obscure albums to purchase

By Published: December 9, 2004
Date: 25-Aug-1999 01:03:25
From: jon wang ( monstrom@home.net )
TUBBY HAYES "TUBBY'S GROOVE." This is perhaps the best kept secret of all of the preceeding entries!. was a tenor player of almost unparalled stature who played with the intensity of Coltrane,had the melodic splendor of a Getz, and the ability to absolutely burn at the freakiest tempos. His ballad playing was immensely ROMANTIC and lyrical. Tubby's tone was thick and lush and full of color. Hayes was the kind of player who could just knock you out in a "ROLLINESQUE" way by the utter weight and rhythmic stability of his line and the ideas that came forth were almost always first rate or way beyond.


Date: 25-Aug-1999 01:20:17
From: jon wang ( monstrom@home.net )
TUBBY HAYES "TUBBY'S GROOVE." This is perhaps the best kept secret of all of the preceeding entries!.TUBBY HAYES was a tenor player of almost unparalled stature who played with the intensity of Coltrane,had the melodic splendor of a Getz, and the ability to absolutely burn at the freakiest tempos. His ballad playing was immensely ROMANTIC and lyrical. Tubby's tone was thick and lush and full of color. Hayes was the kind of player who could just knock you out in a "ROLLINESQUE" way by the utter weight and rhythmic stability of his line and the ideas that came forth were almost always first rate or way beyond. "TUBBY'S GROOVE" recorded in 1959 has the tenor player at the absolute height of his prowess. "LIKE SOMEONE IN LOVE" is a complex and stunningly beautiful lyric, romantic masterwork and should be acknowledged as the finest recorded reading of that standard. "TIN TIN DEO" IS ANOTHER piece of power from this giant and is shocking in its seeming unyeilding mommentum and level of ideas generated. "SUNDAY MONDAY" is simply one of the hippest/jazziest tenor recordings ever made and it grooves so hard that it would make more than a few "soulmEn" seriously contemplate an entirely different career!. HIS up-tempo reading of "SURREY WITH A FRINGE ON TOP" IS ANOTHER JAW DROPPER and is simply over the top in terms of what HAYES is able to sustain for chorus after chorus of super hipness. IT IS AN UNFORGIVABLE SHAME THAT PEOPLE LIKE PHIL SHAPP ARE STILL SINGING THE PRAISES OF MOLDY OLD KAZOO PLAYERS LIKE coleman hawkins WHILE FORGETTING THE GENIUS OF HAYES. I'M NOT AGAINST PRAISING THE MASTERS, BUT LET'S START ACKNOWLEDGING SOME OTHER TRUE MASTERS. ONE MUST ALSO CHECK OUT "ALL OF YOU" FROM HAYES LIVE AT RONNIE SCOTT'S FROM 1962(?). THIS IS ANOTHER OF HAYES' EXTENDED MASTERPIECES.


Date: 26-Aug-1999 08:24:35
From: Zeek
Moldy old kazoo player????????????????? Coleman Hawkins??? wow . . .


Date: 26-Aug-1999 09:20:48
From: Bunky
TUBBY HAYES is dross baby, admit it man, Tubby wouldn't have stood a ghost of a chance if he was on the same bandstand as some of those mouldy old kazoo players which your doltish and obviously impaired brain has conjoured up for us. Anybody who thinks the Hawk sounded like he was playing the kazoo ain't heard him solo on Monk's 'Off Minor'where he traded with the 'Trane. Mouldy? Kazoo? Moron...


Date: 26-Aug-1999 19:50:45
From: tubbs
Bunky, if you want to call that dude a moron- (and I thought this was a forum for opinion and not personal insults) then you (whatever sickening incarnation of human being -sans ears you are) are A frickin' absolute total moron and a gutless wonder. Coleman hawkins has his place and that place has been reaffirmed more TIMES than most of us would care to admit.

TUBBY HAYES WOULD MAKE COLEMAN HAWKINS SHIT HIS PANTS! TUBBY HAYES WOULD CUT COLEMAN HAWKINS A NEW ASS!

AND THE GHOST OF TUBBY WILL SURELY COME FOR YOU- YOU FOOLASS LIGHTWEIGHT PSEUDO JAZZ WANNA BE EARLESS WONDER!




Date: 28-Aug-1999 09:06:33
From: Zeek
Well, that was certainly an enlightening contribution—wasn't it.


Date: 29-Aug-1999 12:01:26
From: B_Badenov_jr ( diba@warwick.net )
Everybody knows about the Basie band but not many know his trio sides which are fantastic. Zoot and the Basie trio did an album which is out on CD.

Everybody knows the great Chet Baker-Jerry Mulligan sides from the 50s but have you heard the Jack Sheldon and Jimmy Giuffre sides from 1954? I'm afraid they're only available now on a Mosaic 6 CD Jimmy Giuffre set ($$$) but what a set. Giuffre's guitarist throughout was Jim Hall. A whole CD features Brookmeyer with the group (this is the group that opens Jazz for a Summer's Day). Then there are some tracks with the MJQ.

Duke Ellington did an album in the 60s featuring violins: Ray Nance (of course), Stephane Grapelli and Swen Asmussen.


Date: 29-Aug-1999 12:02:20
From: Ludwig Wittgenstein
Hey, maybe we could up the level of commentary here—a bit?


Date: 29-Aug-1999 12:56:29
From: Paul Hawkins ( zigaboogaloo@bellsouth.net )
Here are some of my personal faves that don't get a lot of noize:


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